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The Big Four by cookiecreation The Big Four by cookiecreation
Okay, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only who thought of this. Anyway, I think they'd be in these houses if ever they went to Hogwarts :P

Merida - She's strong and courageous and--come on--her movie was BRAVE. Also, I can see that her dominant color is red.
Jack Frost - He's kind of the "bad boy" and he loved doing mischief. He was also aiming to be believed in and he had the ambitious trait of a Slytherin. His dominant color is blue, though. I'd like to think he and Hiccup switched colors since Hiccup wears green.
Rapunzel - Her hair's yellow. Also, you saw the scene where the hag fell off the tower right? Even though Rapunzel defied and hated her, she still reached out to her in concern.
Hiccup - He's a craftsman and he used brains over brawn. He was the weakest link in the village, but he was able to defeat the dragon through strategy.


They were courageous in the face of danger. They protected
their loved ones no matter what the cost. They pushed their
limits and did what was right.
They lost their faith but were
able to get back on their feet in the end.

They wanted something that was hard to get. They never
stopped trying to aim for their goals. They were sly and
mischievous but their intentions were good. They were mis-
understood but they were able to redeem themselves

They had compassion and kindness. They loved someone even
though they've done something wrong to them. They fought for
what was right and for what they dreamed of. They found love in
the strangest of people

They fought against the current and stood up to what they
believed in. They befriended those who were different even if
they were shunned for doing so. They used their wits to
outsmart both the ally and the enemy.
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ArtLover0357 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
This. Is. EPIC!!!!!!!!!! Snow Party My Dork Dance CheerleaderAwesome job!! :D
cookiecreation Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you!
BBBBGarden-Golden Featured By Owner May 1, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
AWWW T.T if Jack is MISUNDERSTOOD he doesn't need to redeem himself, the others are the one supposed to do so T>T>T>T>T>T
Phoenicis-Lunae Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014  Student Writer
I disagree firmly with Jack being in Slytherin. 

For one, he's not ambitious (he doesn't crave money or power) or cunning (tricking others in order to humiliate them and advance in power), and doesn't share many other shared characters traits and vices with other Slytherins. He's not dark in any way - he refuses Pitch's offer in the movie - and while he is considered poorly by the other Guardians, he's not really considered "evil" like how other witches/wizards consider Slytherins.(Ron: "There's not a single witch or wizard who went bad who wasn't in Slytherin.")

Jack would also probably be a Muggleborn, and being a Muggleborn, wouldn't be sorted into Slytherin in the first place. (Not to mention Jack is also American-born, meaning he wouldn't even attend Hogwarts in the first place.) 

If any house fits Jack, I would probably place him in Hufflepuff or Gryffindor. He is extremely loyal, and although he's mischievous, he loves having fun, and is very, very brave with how he stood up to Pitch, the other Guardians, came back, and helped save the day. That's valor fitting of a true Gryffindor. He also works well with a team - i.e. the Guardians and Jamie - whereas Slytherins tend to work on their own.

I also feel Jack is compared way too much to Draco Malfoy, when he really is nothing like Malfoy in the slightest. If anything, Pitch would be in Sytherin, but not Jack. I feel Jack is more like Harry Potter, and Pitch is more like Voldemort.
rababco Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think it's unfair to say that Jack wouldn't be Slytherin because he's not evil or dark; that's a stereotype that many of the wizards/witches in the Harry Potter world believe (even Harry unfortunately.) In fact, many of my favorite heroes outside the Harry Potter fandom have strong Slytherin traits and I think would fit best in Slytherin. As for not being ambitious, I disagree, he may not have been interested in money or power but he strived for something he wanted greatly and was driven to acquire it throughout the movie (his memories.) As for being cunning, he's very mischievous, which isn't by itself a Slytherin trait (the Weasley twins were pranksters and were in Gryffindor) but he was sneaky, and sly about it as opposed to being out front about it and used the fact others couldn't see him to his advantage, he also formed a complex plan and used trickery to stop Pitch. As for working with others, he didn't want to work with The Guardians, he only did so mainly because they had a way to get what he wanted. :iconscrawlers: has a more detailed explanation as to why Jack would be a Slytherin, which I took some ideas of theirs from for my argument (….)

I don't think Pitch is like Voldemort, if anything he's more like the equivalent of Dementor, he sucks the happiness out of people and manipulates and creates sadness and fear. Voldemort is more like the Harry Potter equivalent of Hitler and the Death Eaters are like the Nazis. Voldemort isn't evil because he's a Slytherin but mostly because he's a psychopath.

I'm not going to argue against Jack having Gryffindor traits because he does. He's a hero, all heroes have some form of bravery (kind of hard to be a hero if they're a coward) and morals (if they didn't have morals they'd be villains.) If want to argue that Jack should be a Gryffindor than you could argue that Rapunzel and Hiccup should be in Gryffindor too because they are also brave and the heroes. I'm not going to say Jack shouldn't or can't be in Gryffindor, I just disagree that he shouldn't or can't be in Slytherin. As for Jack being in Hufflepuff, I'm sorry but I think that's as ridiculous as putting Hiccup in Hufflepuff. It's not that heroes can't be Hufflepuff or have strong Hufflepuff traits (I think Rapunzel has strong Hufflepuff traits) but neither Jack or Hiccup have strong Hufflepuff traits.
Phoenicis-Lunae Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2014  Student Writer
I stand firmly by what I said earlier: Jack would not be a Slytherin. I'm not going to waste time writing a dissertation on it. Long post short, Jamie's best quality In n the ROTG movie is said by his voice actor to be loyalty. This means Jamie is a 'Puff. Slytherins do not exactly make good friendships with 'Puffs in the books, but we see 'Puffs forming friendships with Gryffindors. Jack and Jamie's relationship is far more plausible if Jack is a Gryffindor. Plus, unlike Slytherins, whose main desire is self-preservation, Jack does care about more than just his own self-preservation. He puts Jamie and Jamie's friends' safety over his own, as well as saving his sister, one of his defining traits. This indicates Jack's bravery shines through far more than his desire for self-preservation.

Cunning does not exactly equal mischevious. Sneaky and sly also implies that Jack has ulterior motives, which for the most part, he lacks. I also did not compare Pitch to Voldemort, at all, because they are vastly different. For one, with his backstory in the GoC books, Pitch would most likely be a Gryffindor or 'Puff as well. He is very loyal to his family and superiors, and is a war general for the good guys before becoming corrupted into Pitch Black.

The link you posted talks about HTTYD characters, but excludes Jack.

That being said, I am tired of people pigonholing Jack, Hiccup, Rapunzel, and Merida into Slytherin, Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw and Gryffindor simply 'just because' or 'because they look good or balance each other out'. This is the first and foremost reason why Jack is seemingly always placed in Slytherin. I especially dislike that Rapunzel is always placed in Ravenclaw, as she isn't witty or intelligent. 

For me, Jack would be a Gryffindor; Merida a Gryffindor as well; Rapunzel, a 'Puff; and Hiccup, a Ravenclaw or Slytherin. Or, heck, put them all in Gryffindor. 
rababco Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Everyone has their own person option I guess. :shrug: That's the problem with the Hogwarts' House Sorting System, people/characters are far too complex to be placed in one house. I just don't like the "Slytherin is evil" prejudice (it doesn't help that Rowling put most of the villains in Slytherin and most of the heroes in Gryffindor either.) I sort of used to think that way, but I've realized that I was wrong and I've also realized that a lot of my favorite heroes have strong Slytherin traits/I think would fit best in Slytherin. I respect your option and you've got some good points but I got a little defensive when you were implying that Jack couldn't be in Slytherin because he's not evil (that's the impression I got, if I'm wrong, then I'm sorry.) Fans are going to disagree about this stuff, we all see things differently and that's okay. ^^;
Phoenicis-Lunae Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014  Student Writer
First off, I'm sorry if my response sounded a bit harsh earlier. ^^; I was editing it on my phone and accidentally hit the 'send' button a bit early. 

You're right, everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. Me, like I said, the main reason what prompted me to respond in the first place was that placing Jack in Slytherin has become very cliche. It seems that ROTBD writers for the Hogwarts AU just place him there 'just because'. You, however, had some really food, valid reasons for why you would put Jack in Slytherin, and I can definitely see why you'd put him there. I thought your reasoning was very well-thought out, and you're right, Jack does have some traits that could be prized by Slytherin. Personally, Jack reminds me of the Weasley twins, so I guess it's just my personal association that has be associating Jack with Gryffindor. Then again, Harry had Gryffindor and Slytherin traits, and he could have ended up either way. I also feel that, given the scenario, Jack could also choose whether or not he wanted to be in Gryffindor, or Slytherin.
rababco Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It's okay, I understand, I was a bit defensive myself. I also understand the putting someone in a house as being cliché. I don't like it when fans put characters in a house and don't give good reasons as to why they fit into that house. For example there's a huge debate between fans to if BBC Sherlock is more of a Slytherin or a Ravenclaw; I side with the Sherlock in Slytherin group largely because fans can provide large, complex reasons and arguments as to why Sherlock should be in Slytherin whereas the reasoning for Ravenclaw generally is something along the lines of "he's smart." Similar issue to fans putting Hiccup in Hufflepuff, it doesn't make sense and any reasoning fans do give is generally very weak; Hiccup has traits from Ravenclaw, Gryffindor and even Slytherin (I think he's the most well-balanced of the four characters) but fans often put Hiccup in the one house he doesn't belong, Hufflepuff, which I think is ridiculous. Then they often put Rapunzel in Ravenclaw even though Hiccup obviously fits better in Ravenclaw and Rapunzel fits better in Hufflepuff than Hiccup. I guess you could argue this just my opinion but the truth is that fans can provide complex arguments as to why Hiccup should be in Ravenclaw and Rapunzel should be in Hufflepuff whereas, the reasoning for Hiccup in Hufflepuff and Rapunzel in Ravenclaw are either none or very weak.

Like I said before, I've got nothing wrong with Jack being in Gryffindor, I think he could in there well. I've actually read arguments where Jack would be in Gryffindor and Merida would be in Slytherin. This makes sense too because Merida shows cunningness and a strong desire and drive to get what she wants whereas Jack is brave and heroic enough to be a Gryffindor. I think Jack would get along with the Weasley twins if they met, regardless of whether Jack was Gryffindor or a Slytherin (though if he were a Slytherin, it would probably take awhile to gain their trust.)
cookiecreation Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
After reading your comment, I did get a different insight on Jack's character when it comes to his Hogwarts house :) It was very difficult, sorting him, because his personality is not as clear as the other three. I do admit I focused more on getting each house at least one character rather than sorting them in their true houses.

Though I think it wouldn't matter if he was a muggleborn. It was stated that Salazar preferred purebloods, but I don't think they continued with the tradition. (Slytherin accepted Voldy and Snape who were both half-bloods, so I wouldn't be surprised if there was a muggleborn). Also, this "Big Four in Hogwarts" which includes fictional characters was made just for fun :) 

Everyone has sorted each character in different houses with their own explanations. This is just what I thought they'd be in (except Jack, now that you've explained). Anyway, I respect your opinion nonetheless. Thank you :)
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